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		<title>By: Audrius Brazdeikis</title>
		<link>http://lithuanianphilately.com/forgeries/exposed.html/comment-page-1#comment-1927</link>
		<dc:creator>Audrius Brazdeikis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear continentalsubastas,

Many thanks for your follow up comment. I completely understand your concerns. Ebay doesn&#039;t do anything to stop flood of fakes and forgeries. I personally tried several times contacting eBay to address this problem. Instead, I was referred to the American Philatelic Society to raise my concerns there about the forgeries and fakes. Delcampe, on the other hand, takes matter very seriously and immediately delists such listings.

Perhaps the most important question here when dealing with such fake items and listings is which side we choose. Both the collector’s and the seller&#039;s sides are important. We obviously sided with unsuspected collectors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear continentalsubastas,</p>
<p>Many thanks for your follow up comment. I completely understand your concerns. Ebay doesn&#8217;t do anything to stop flood of fakes and forgeries. I personally tried several times contacting eBay to address this problem. Instead, I was referred to the American Philatelic Society to raise my concerns there about the forgeries and fakes. Delcampe, on the other hand, takes matter very seriously and immediately delists such listings.</p>
<p>Perhaps the most important question here when dealing with such fake items and listings is which side we choose. Both the collector’s and the seller&#8217;s sides are important. We obviously sided with unsuspected collectors.</p>
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		<title>By: continentalsubastas</title>
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		<dc:creator>continentalsubastas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 10:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Selling fakes and forgeries is illegal on many auction sites (e.g. ebay, delcampe). We only display ebay ID and auction ID and do not comment on business practices.&quot;


It is only illegal in ebay/Germany, on ebay/Spain sold hundreds of fake stamps every day and do nothing to avoid, as much as the denounce on ebay.

 In Spain also showed him a similar page, but never use it to harm, as I said, first notices, and then act if you do not respond adequately.

 I beg to differ in their methods but their goals seem laudable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Selling fakes and forgeries is illegal on many auction sites (e.g. ebay, delcampe). We only display ebay ID and auction ID and do not comment on business practices.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is only illegal in ebay/Germany, on ebay/Spain sold hundreds of fake stamps every day and do nothing to avoid, as much as the denounce on ebay.</p>
<p> In Spain also showed him a similar page, but never use it to harm, as I said, first notices, and then act if you do not respond adequately.</p>
<p> I beg to differ in their methods but their goals seem laudable.</p>
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		<title>By: Audrius Brazdeikis</title>
		<link>http://lithuanianphilately.com/forgeries/exposed.html/comment-page-1#comment-1923</link>
		<dc:creator>Audrius Brazdeikis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 14:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear contisubastas,

Thank you for your visit and comment. The intention of this &quot;Forgeries and Fakes Exposed&quot; section is to inform unsuspected collectors about large number of forgeries found on ebay and other auction websites. We decided not to police every auction by actively contacting every seller. It only leads to confrontation. Instead, we decided to collect and display such information for personal use. Often, we identify forgery only after auction ended.

Selling fakes and forgeries is illegal on many auction sites (e.g. ebay, delcampe).  We only display ebay ID and auction ID and do not comment on business practices.

Many stamp dealers regularly contact us about Lithuania philatelic items before placing these items for sale. We respond promptly to all inquires. Let&#039;s work together to reduce philatelic forgeries offered to unsuspected collectors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear contisubastas,</p>
<p>Thank you for your visit and comment. The intention of this &#8220;Forgeries and Fakes Exposed&#8221; section is to inform unsuspected collectors about large number of forgeries found on ebay and other auction websites. We decided not to police every auction by actively contacting every seller. It only leads to confrontation. Instead, we decided to collect and display such information for personal use. Often, we identify forgery only after auction ended.</p>
<p>Selling fakes and forgeries is illegal on many auction sites (e.g. ebay, delcampe).  We only display ebay ID and auction ID and do not comment on business practices.</p>
<p>Many stamp dealers regularly contact us about Lithuania philatelic items before placing these items for sale. We respond promptly to all inquires. Let&#8217;s work together to reduce philatelic forgeries offered to unsuspected collectors.</p>
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		<title>By: contisubastas</title>
		<link>http://lithuanianphilately.com/forgeries/exposed.html/comment-page-1#comment-1922</link>
		<dc:creator>contisubastas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 08:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very interesting site, but right in these cases is to contact the seller to remove them, and do not purchase the lots on ebay, build and commission charges of selling false expectations.

 Since Lithuania is very easy to know these details, as we see them on stamps of Spain, and also denounced in www.agoradefilatelia.org, but first advised the seller.

 This public denunciation of a company is completely illegal and cause serious damage.

 A greeting from Barcelona Continental Auctions.




Una pagina muy interesante, pero lo correcto en estos casos es avisar al vendedor para que los retire, y no comprar los lotes en ebay, generar gastos de comisión y falsas espectativas de venta.

Desde Lituania es muy facil conocer esos detalles, al igual que los vemos nosotros en los sellos de España, y los denunciamos tambien en www.agoradefilatelia.org, pero primero avisamos al vendedor.

Esta denuncia publica de una empresa es del todo ilegal y causa perjuicios importantes.

Un saludo de Continental Subastas de Barcelona.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very interesting site, but right in these cases is to contact the seller to remove them, and do not purchase the lots on ebay, build and commission charges of selling false expectations.</p>
<p> Since Lithuania is very easy to know these details, as we see them on stamps of Spain, and also denounced in <a href="http://www.agoradefilatelia.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.agoradefilatelia.org</a>, but first advised the seller.</p>
<p> This public denunciation of a company is completely illegal and cause serious damage.</p>
<p> A greeting from Barcelona Continental Auctions.</p>
<p>Una pagina muy interesante, pero lo correcto en estos casos es avisar al vendedor para que los retire, y no comprar los lotes en ebay, generar gastos de comisión y falsas espectativas de venta.</p>
<p>Desde Lituania es muy facil conocer esos detalles, al igual que los vemos nosotros en los sellos de España, y los denunciamos tambien en <a href="http://www.agoradefilatelia.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.agoradefilatelia.org</a>, pero primero avisamos al vendedor.</p>
<p>Esta denuncia publica de una empresa es del todo ilegal y causa perjuicios importantes.</p>
<p>Un saludo de Continental Subastas de Barcelona.</p>
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		<title>By: Audrius Brazdeikis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Audrius Brazdeikis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2011 16:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Janis, 

Thank you for your visit and kind comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Janis, </p>
<p>Thank you for your visit and kind comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Janis Erins</title>
		<link>http://lithuanianphilately.com/forgeries/exposed.html/comment-page-1#comment-1224</link>
		<dc:creator>Janis Erins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 22:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just recently, discovered your site.
Although my primary collection is Latvia, I also collect the other two Baltic countries.
I think in my case, you offer a valuable service since I am not as familiar with the  postal history of Lithuania.
Latvia collectors have similar problems with forgeries.
Even blatant forgeries are offered on the Ebay as the real thing.
Some to try to hide the forgery with fuzzy scans.
The German Ebay will permit the sale of  forgeries if the are listed as reproductions.
Some of this is due to the ignorance of the seller. ( I have purchased Latvia stamps listed under Lithuania)
Since the total number of forgeries of the Baltic stamps is not that great, a guide would be very usefull to all.
The question of fake covers and postmarks is far more complex.
Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just recently, discovered your site.<br />
Although my primary collection is Latvia, I also collect the other two Baltic countries.<br />
I think in my case, you offer a valuable service since I am not as familiar with the  postal history of Lithuania.<br />
Latvia collectors have similar problems with forgeries.<br />
Even blatant forgeries are offered on the Ebay as the real thing.<br />
Some to try to hide the forgery with fuzzy scans.<br />
The German Ebay will permit the sale of  forgeries if the are listed as reproductions.<br />
Some of this is due to the ignorance of the seller. ( I have purchased Latvia stamps listed under Lithuania)<br />
Since the total number of forgeries of the Baltic stamps is not that great, a guide would be very usefull to all.<br />
The question of fake covers and postmarks is far more complex.<br />
Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Audrius Brazdeikis</title>
		<link>http://lithuanianphilately.com/forgeries/exposed.html/comment-page-1#comment-514</link>
		<dc:creator>Audrius Brazdeikis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 15:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Simon,

Thank you for your post. The intention of this section is to inform unsuspected collectors about large number of forgeries found on ebay and other auction websites. I am responsible for posting this information, but often rely on other experienced collectors who are expects in their fields of specialization. Their names are listed above. We decided not to police every auction by actively contacting  every seller. It only leads to confrontation. Instead, we decided to collect and display such information for personal use. Please note that the LPS is not connected in any way with collecting and displaying such information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Simon,</p>
<p>Thank you for your post. The intention of this section is to inform unsuspected collectors about large number of forgeries found on ebay and other auction websites. I am responsible for posting this information, but often rely on other experienced collectors who are expects in their fields of specialization. Their names are listed above. We decided not to police every auction by actively contacting  every seller. It only leads to confrontation. Instead, we decided to collect and display such information for personal use. Please note that the LPS is not connected in any way with collecting and displaying such information.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://lithuanianphilately.com/forgeries/exposed.html/comment-page-1#comment-468</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 15:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would ask that the authors of this website take sometime to contact LPS members or even eBay sellers if at all possible to gather all the information pertaining to items listed as fakes/forgeries.  In question is the Vilnius 80kp overprint cover I sold on eBay earlier this year.  What&#039;s annoyed me here is that the nothing is mentioned that the card IS EXPERTISED!

This cover does have Krischke expert marks on the rear of the PSC.  There is nothing written to state that the address or cancels are forged. Any BBP expert will print FALSCH on a card if the cancels are forged; I had such a PSC with a Neprik stamp that I sent to Prof. Klein for expertizing. The stamp and card genuine but the cancels, registration marks were forged, the card came back with FALSCH printed on it.  

This leads to an important concern for any seller/buyer, that even expertized items may not be what they seem. 

I fully support these pages highlighting forgeries, but if the LPS is going to list them and have taken their info from a known live auction page, then you have a responsibility to contact the seller and provide evidence and a request to change the auction and/or delete the auction - that is inline with eBay stamp selling policy anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would ask that the authors of this website take sometime to contact LPS members or even eBay sellers if at all possible to gather all the information pertaining to items listed as fakes/forgeries.  In question is the Vilnius 80kp overprint cover I sold on eBay earlier this year.  What&#8217;s annoyed me here is that the nothing is mentioned that the card IS EXPERTISED!</p>
<p>This cover does have Krischke expert marks on the rear of the PSC.  There is nothing written to state that the address or cancels are forged. Any BBP expert will print FALSCH on a card if the cancels are forged; I had such a PSC with a Neprik stamp that I sent to Prof. Klein for expertizing. The stamp and card genuine but the cancels, registration marks were forged, the card came back with FALSCH printed on it.  </p>
<p>This leads to an important concern for any seller/buyer, that even expertized items may not be what they seem. </p>
<p>I fully support these pages highlighting forgeries, but if the LPS is going to list them and have taken their info from a known live auction page, then you have a responsibility to contact the seller and provide evidence and a request to change the auction and/or delete the auction &#8211; that is inline with eBay stamp selling policy anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Audrius Brazdeikis</title>
		<link>http://lithuanianphilately.com/forgeries/exposed.html/comment-page-1#comment-161</link>
		<dc:creator>Audrius Brazdeikis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 13:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Michel,

Thank you for your response. We applaud you for taking a stance against fakes and forgeries on the Delcampe marketplace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Michel,</p>
<p>Thank you for your response. We applaud you for taking a stance against fakes and forgeries on the Delcampe marketplace.</p>
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		<title>By: michel</title>
		<link>http://lithuanianphilately.com/forgeries/exposed.html/comment-page-1#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>michel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. Brazdeikis,

The sale you are reporting has been closed on our Delcampe. Thank you very much to have report this item. Do not hesitate to contact me for any other items you find suspicious. Continue your good work. You site is very interesting.
Regards.
Michel, Collectibles Manager for Delcampe.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Brazdeikis,</p>
<p>The sale you are reporting has been closed on our Delcampe. Thank you very much to have report this item. Do not hesitate to contact me for any other items you find suspicious. Continue your good work. You site is very interesting.<br />
Regards.<br />
Michel, Collectibles Manager for Delcampe.net</p>
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